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    I've been giving this project some more thought, and I can see why most (if not all) of the competitors have their rifles tethered to a SCUBA or SCBA tank.... First of all, to get 950 fps with the 41.5gr. pellet (83 FPE) and have the valve close when the pellet is half way down a 26" barrel requires about 2800 psi at an efficiency of 0.90 FPE/CI.... That would use 92 CI of air (at 1 bar) per shot.... If you had a 22 CI, 3000 psi tank (2.6 CF), the pressure would drop 61 psi per shot.... If you started at 3000 psi, and shot 7 shots, you would be down to about 2600.... Using less pressure would drop the efficiency, and eventually you wouldn't have enough to get the velocity/energy required even with a dump shot (which is very wasteful).... Sooooooo, it's either not many shots, or a very big reservoir....

    If you tethered the same gun to an 88 CF SCUBA tank, you might get about 200 shots from 3000 psi down to 2600.... If you regulated the output to 2800 psi, maybe 100 shots.... The best way to go, would be to tether to a 4500 psi SCBA tank regulated to a 3000 psi output and tune the gun accordingly.... The higher the pressure you use, the more efficient, because you can close the valve sooner.... That also makes the gun quieter, although these things will be LOUD anyway.... In the example above, the residual muzzle pressure would be about 1340 psi (ie nearly half the tank pressure).... Note that these numbers are all rough approximations, and there is no guarantee we can reach the required efficiency levels to produce them.... That said - GAME ON !!!

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    Your right the geometry would require some thinking. You would need to get the tank block far enough back to allow for a grip
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    Done deal
    Two pieces of twill laid carbon fiber tube on their way

    This will quell the chaotic vibrations and still allow the harmonic to be tuned
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    Sean, Mind if I ask where you ordered the carbon fiber tube from ? Thanks

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    WOW!.... That's a thing of beauty!.... I assume you do the inletting and finishing yourself?.... Mind me asking the price?....

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    REALLY !! It only took half that time to get here from the Netherlands.

    But look at that near perfect stability graph.

    Thanks for doing that Bob. I brought them with me hoping to do that myself but it seems like everyone has gone insane and are hell bent on drowning themselves
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