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    New .177 cal AR2078 barrel and extended probe

    On Friday I picked up a new .177 barrel and an extended probe bolt from Eric for the AR. I would like to shoot more postal matches with the AR but most require .177 and mine is .22.

    When I first picked up the barrel I tried to shove a CP dome into the muzzle and it was so tight it wouldn't budge (Eric looked really worried but I was really pleased...of course I didn't tell Eric that)

    First step was to remove all evidence of the factory crown and as I am at home and my lathe is not I had to use my drill press set up. I basically hand tighten the breach end into the chuck and then muzzle end runs in a close fitting hole drilled thru a board. The board sits on 2" blocks and the board and blocks are clamped to the table. Then I use two equal hardwood wedges facing opposite each other so that when you slide the wedges together or apart you end up with an adjustable height block. A piece of emery is laid on my block and I move it around under the spinning barrel. (I have a picture I will edit in)

    Once the old crown was completely removed I broke the burr with a very light pass of the brass screw and diamond paste. (not worried about final crown yet.)

    Second step was to lead lap the barrel using the same process that all match barrels undergo.

    I use a cleaning jag that is meant to push cleaning felts and reduce 1/2" of the tip to about half the original size. Just below the reduced section I wind sufficient wraps of teflon tape to get a snug fit. This assembly is pulled into the muzzle until the tip of the jag is an 1/8" below flush. The rest is simply pouring melted lead down the bore until its over full and allowing it to cool. But .177 is so small it's impossible to get lead to flow down the bore without it solidifying instantly so the tip of the muzzle has to be heated to above the melting point of lead. Just above...don't go crazy.

    Once it cools it knocks out easily and the sprue gets trimmed with a sharp exacto knife

    Lead lap.jpg

    Once the lap is trimmed and ready it needs a shallow groove cut into it to hold the lapping compound.

    I only use JB Non Embedding Bore Compound and I don't recommend anything else. It's available from Brownell's and several sub distributors in Canada.

    Pass a felt/patch that has been soaked in light oil thru the bore then coat the lead lap in JB compound. Working from the breach wiggle the lap around until the rifling lines up and start taking full length passes all the way to the muzzle. Let the lap protrude out of the muzzle a bit but don't allow it to pop right out. The first few passes can be a bit snarly but it will quickly get smoother.

    Continue taking full length passes until the bore feels even along the full length (25-50 passes) adding more lapping compound every so often. If the lap feels loose before you are happy with the feel of the bore simply tap the end of the lap once lightly to swell the lead.

    Once your happy with the overall feel of the bore mark the rod 1" before the lap hits the muzzle then take three passes at this length. Then mark 1' shorter and three more passes and so on until you work your way backwards in 1" steps all the way to the breach. Tap the lap on the end to swell the lead as necessary. This is the technique used to lap a choke.

    Final take several dozen passes at the breach throat.

    At this point I completely clean the bore with oil soaked patches or felt then I use a patch that has been saturated in JB Bore Bright to polish the bore using full length strokes but again not allowing the patch to pop out completely.

    Completely clean the bore again using oil soaked patches/felts followed by dry until the bore is completly clean. (you'll notice the patches just glide thru now.)

    Once this was all done I finalized the crown using the brass screw technique, pushed a felt thru and reassembled the rifle.
    crown.jpg

    The assembled rifle with some adjustable brass barrel weights I use for tuning

    adjustable barrel weights.jpgBarrel.jpg

    The new extended probe bolt installed

    extended probe.jpg


    Here comes the exciting part

    First 5 shot group with the new barrel.

    Meisterkugelns at 10m

    Standing with forearm rest

    Using factory target sights


    Are ya ready for this.................


    first 5 group.jpg

    It's a one hole wonder

    The blob of lead above the hole is the 5 pellets welded together that I dug out of my putty backstop.

    With some tuning as far as pellets, velocity and barrel wieght I'm sure the accuracy will only get better.

    The only downside is it appears that I am going to have to do some shimming at the breach because I ran out of sight adjustment before I got a zero

    But I'm flippin thrilled

    shhhh don't tell Eric
    Sean

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    Your one hole is still 2" off target.
    I'd say I care- but I'd probably be lying...


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    Quote Originally Posted by AirGunEric View Post
    Your one hole is still 2" off target.
    Ya it is and I blame you ....don't know how or why but it's your fault
    Sean

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirGunEric View Post
    Your one hole is still 2" off target.
    A quick update just for EricIMG042.jpg

    I'm not happy with your stinking barrel at all
    Sean

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    You make me sick !!!

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    Bloody lousy barrel eh. One shot hits the paper and all the rest miss it entirely....leaves me shakin my head at the what some folks will sell these days.

    Wanna trade it for a used up (BUT...RELOADABLE!!!) Tim's card???? lol

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    I'm not happy with your stinking barrel at all
    Yer a pr#$k!

    Guy says "pellet won't fit in barrel" so I start to get uptight (paranoid about the Chinese QC- the stack of QBs and ARs to be repaired keeps getting larger) and now he goes and does this...
    I'd say I care- but I'd probably be lying...


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    Quote Originally Posted by AirGunEric View Post
    Yer a pr#$k!

    Guy says "pellet won't fit in barrel" so I start to get uptight (paranoid about the Chinese QC- the stack of QBs and ARs to be repaired keeps getting larger) and now he goes and does this...
    Funny my wife says I'm a pr#$k too...Do you two know each other

    And it is winter and as you know I have nothing better to do than p!ss people off. You could always call and I could spend an afternoon fixing that pile rather than just b!tch!ng about it

    Wanna trade it for a used up (BUT...RELOADABLE!!!) Tim's card???? lol
    Lol...Nope but if you were talking a used up but reloadable Keurig card I might jump at the offer....I've been refined in my coffee snobbery

    You make me sick !!!

    Bob
    Don't worry Bob. It doesn't do my ego any favors knowing that the gun will shoot 10.8 and yet I only manage 8's
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanMP View Post
    A quick update just for EricAttachment 327

    I'm not happy with your stinking barrel at all

    How do we know a pellet made that hole anyway?
    Confucious says: He who slings mud, often loses ground!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACTOO View Post
    How do we know a pellet made that hole anyway?
    Alright.I'm busted..ya got me. I had a custom made .177 hole punch made up with extra long reach.
    Sean

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